From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Wed Jan  9 11:44:50 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 11:44:50 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] OES 2 - 6 hours - get entered into all expense
	paid drawing to Brainshare
Message-ID: <609b18560801091144l5cc5602agc67391c050e2b511@mail.gmail.com>

check out the details on the Calendar page

www.psnug.org

Jan 16, 2008

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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Thu Jan 10 11:37:03 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:37:03 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] GroupWise - GWAVAcon - update
Message-ID: <609b18560801101137n2fd414eete309403da5752162@mail.gmail.com>

FYI -

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Richard Bliss" <rbliss at gwava.com>
To: <ngw at ngwlist.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:17:35 -0700
Subject: GWAVACon Update

Many on the list have been asking about GWAVACon details. I thought I
would post some information here in case there were others wondering.

GWAVACon San Diego Free passes are now sold out. If you wish to
attend, the cost is $795 per person.
The GWAVACon Marriott Conference hotel is also sold out. You can visit
http://www.gwavacon.com/na/san_diego_book_hotel_2008.php to find out
information about the hotels that are across the street.

GWAVACon Shuttle service is being provided by Blue Shuttle. There is
contact information on the GWAVACon website at
http://www.gwavacon.com/na/supershuttle_Information.php
One way ticket is $25, but if there are more than one GWAVACon
attendee on the shuttle, the second price drops to $7. You have to
register online to take advantage of this. Going back to the airport
will be a lot easier since there will be a lot of people going
together.
BTW, a taxi is $60 one way.

Currently the registration and total attendance is just shy of 500.
This is going to be a really big event.

Also, for those who can't attend, we will be broadcasting GWAVACon
Live on GWAVA TV. Information will be available soon on the GWAVA and
GWAVACon websites.

I look forward to seeing everyone from the list who will be in attendance.

Richard Bliss
VP Marketing
GWAVA
The Bliss Blog
gwbliss.blogspot.com

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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Thu Jan 10 14:09:58 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:09:58 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] University of Michigan, Ann Arbor - JOB
Message-ID: <609b18560801101409v5e875cf9k82ac84c86257bf79@mail.gmail.com>

--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "John Sdao" <jsdao at med.umich.edu>
To: ngw at ngwlist.com
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:10:22 -0500
Subject: We are looking for a GW position
If you are interested contact me outside of the this discussion.

* GW experience
* GMS and BES experience This would be there primary responsibility.

Salary would be 65 to 75 with great benes and great retirement


_____________________________
John Sdao
Systems Programmer/Analyst Senior
Medical Center Information Technology
University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, Michigan
jsdao at med.umich.edu

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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Mon Jan 14 13:33:22 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:33:22 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] OES 2 - 6 hours - get entered into all
	expense paid drawing to Brainshare
In-Reply-To: <609b18560801091144l5cc5602agc67391c050e2b511@mail.gmail.com>
References: <609b18560801091144l5cc5602agc67391c050e2b511@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <609b18560801141333l19433deckda035ce35cac88ab@mail.gmail.com>

REMINDER:  register by Email, so they can make sure you get your
lunch, software, and printed materials.

> check out the details on the Calendar page
>
> www.psnug.org
>
> Jan 16, 2008  - Wednesday

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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Mon Jan 14 13:34:55 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:34:55 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] Calendar export/import Outlook idea
Message-ID: <609b18560801141334s5351e926v6f00ad10ddd8632a@mail.gmail.com>

Chuck wrote:

...I was helping a friend migrate to OSX a while
back and wasn't able to migrate their calendar from outlook to iCal format
in order to use OSX's calendar app. Then I got the bright idea to use
google calendar as an intermediary. Outlook doesn't export to anything but
outlook formats, but google calendar can import outlook data and can
export it as iCal. It worked! Only took about 15 minutes once I figured
everything out. Since every other calendar uses iCal formated calendar
data, I believe this method can be used anytime you need to migrate off of
outlook.

..Chuck..
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 ACCELERATING Business with Open Technology


thanks for the idea, Chuck !

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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Mon Jan 14 13:37:12 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:37:12 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] windows security
Message-ID: <609b18560801141337g8b99226g16932edcf6683ab6@mail.gmail.com>

<snip>
For many years, Microsoft Windows in all its evolving incarnations has
edged closer to something it might call proper multiuser support. This
is a good thing for MS Windows' overall security, and might one day
provide real, effective privilege separation. It has taken a long
time, though, in large part because MS Windows grew out of DOS ? an
intrinsically single-user (and single-tasking) system ? and Microsoft
has been loath to just throw out the entire system design to start
over the way Apple did with MacOS X. There is surely little, if any,
original DOS code still extant in MS Windows Vista, but the
requirements of backward compatibility and the slow evolution of MS
Windows over the years have ensured that, to some extent, user
authentication is still a bolted-on security feature ? or welded-on,
perhaps, after so many years of increased integration. </snip>

read the full story:
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=376&tag=nl.e036


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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Mon Jan 14 14:08:06 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:08:06 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] open source - computer languages?
Message-ID: <609b18560801141408j186df48di75f36e7e736e63d3@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.systemc.org/home

Well, I guess many languages are open source?
a few of the obvious ones like:

http://www.python.org/
http://www.perl.org/
http://java.sun.com/
http://www.w3schools.com/php/default.asp
http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/show/Tutorial
http://www.coreservlets.com/Apache-Tomcat-Tutorial/

other candidates:

Ajax
http://www.w3schools.com/ajax/default.asp
http://code.google.com/edu/client/ajax-tutorial.html
http://java.sun.com/javaee/javaserverfaces/ajax/tutorial.jsp

Mono
http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page
Moonlight
http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight

well, you get the idea... open source a very powerful model being
applied to many areas.

http://www-03.ibm.com/linux/opensource/
http://opensource.hp.com/
http://www.sun.com/software/opensource/index.jsp

(you can also find open source Hardware, CPUs, phones, supercomputer
clusters, what else? )
http://www.power.org/home


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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Mon Jan 14 14:22:35 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:22:35 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] Fwd: Possible Plone Training Offered in BC,
	Canada
Message-ID: <609b18560801141422s7ec8b5d1we12ad85cc7b31db3@mail.gmail.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Darci Hanning <darci.hanning at state.or.us>
Date: Jan 14, 2008 1:43 PM
Subject: [plone_seattle] Possible Plone Training Offered
To: "plone_portland at lists.onenw.org" <plone_portland at lists.onenw.org>,
"plone_seattle at lists.onenw.org" <plone_seattle at lists.onenw.org>,
"uwplone at u.washington.edu" <uwplone at u.washington.edu>




Greetings everyone! Just thought I'd pass this along. Please do NOT
respond directly to me but follow up with Ben at ben.hyman at gov.bc.ca
-- Thanks!

Cheers,
Darci




 ________________________________
 From: Hyman, Ben EDUC:EX [mailto:Ben.Hyman at gov.bc.ca]
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 12:59 PM
To: Hyman, Ben EDUC:EX
Cc: vanpyz at lists.livingcode.org; bcla-list at lists.bclibrary.ca
Subject: Plone training - March - Vancouver BC




Greetings,

We are looking into hosting a 3-day plone training session to be
conducted by Richard Amerman of www.7technw.com. The session would be
a 'mini bootcamp' focussing primarily on intro and intermediate
content in a Plone 2.5 environment. We are currently aiming for March
10-14 in Vancouver and are wondering if there are others out there who
might be interested in attending; session pricing will depend on
uptake.

Here is the preliminary session content:
Installing Plone Using advanced Plone features (Smart Folders,
syndication, etc.); Customizing Plone's features Installing add-on
products for Plone; Building new templates using Zope Page Templates;
Understanding acquisition and "in-place customization"; Customizing
the look and feel of your site with CSS and HTML; Building forms and
applications in Plone; Managing users and workflow; Using Plone with
relational databases; Debugging Plone (ZODB shell and WingIDE); Zope 3
technologies and Five; Customizing Plone's workflow and security; Best
practices for development and deployment

Feel free to forward to others who might be interested.
Please let me know if you are interested by Friday January 18th.

Ben Hyman
Manager, Library Policy & Technology
Public Library Services Branch, Ministry of Education, BC
Phone 250.387.4043 or Toll Free 800.663.7051
ben.hyman at gov.bc.ca
www.bced.gov.bc.ca/pls/


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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Thu Jan 17 02:59:24 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 02:59:24 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] nano meter radio - billionth of a meter size
	radio !
Message-ID: <609b18560801170259q4d922c77odac4f8ff1992e@mail.gmail.com>

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1258426397/bctid1258438902

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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Thu Jan 17 15:07:26 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:07:26 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] Fwd: iPhoto '08: The Missing Manual
Message-ID: <609b18560801171507o2bff1bbm60f544df385b6e49@mail.gmail.com>

Don't forget to visit www.psnug.org to get your discount code

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: O'Reilly Media <ormadmin at oreilly.com>
Date: Jan 17, 2008 2:24 PM
Subject: New Book: iPhoto '08: The Missing Manual
To: brando.fouts at gmail.com


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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Thu Jan 17 16:09:48 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:09:48 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] Optical Transport Networks: 40G & the Road to
	100G
Message-ID: <609b18560801171609h204dcf1mb2ab9ef678689c98@mail.gmail.com>

OK, really this is for the really big networks, but still interesting, I
think.

The Future of Optical Transport Networks: 40G & the Road to 100G   Vol. 5,
No. 15, November 2007   2007 marks the first real volume deployments of
40-Gbit/s technology in operator DWDM networks, but even as 40G finally
starts to get off the ground, 100G already looms large on the horizon as its
replacement. This report delivers the industry's most comprehensive
forward-looking analysis of the path to 100G DWDM deployment and the role
that 40G will play along the way. The report is based on three months of
in-depth interviews with major industry players, as well as results of a
detailed worldwide survey of more than 100 service provider professionals
regarding their plans for both 40G and 100G
deployments.<http://www.heavyreading.com/details.asp?sku_id=1973&skuitem_itemid=1059&promo_code=&aff_code=&next_url=%2Fdefault%2Easp%3F>
and one of the suppliers
www.wave7optics.com

http://www.lightreading.com/

read about how France has many companies supplying phone, internet, TV  (it
is known as triple play in telco speak)
http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=142594


30euro/month

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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Fri Jan 18 13:29:00 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:29:00 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] another reason to consider AMD
Message-ID: <609b18560801181329u6bc481cel7e485bfa48e205aa@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543_15012~111506,00.html


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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Mon Jan 21 15:10:05 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:10:05 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] PSNUG updates
Message-ID: <609b18560801211510n9716e4esb1f31bc5e5f630c7@mail.gmail.com>

A lot of updates - regional events you might be interested in.
(let me know of other events you think we should list)

If you have time, can you check the www.psnug.org  home page - if you see
any problems, please let me know.

Be sure to include which browser/version you are using.


brando.fouts at gmail.com


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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:26:43 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] Orem UT job - not Novell
Message-ID: <609b18560801211526l5d669325r1f4c556935fb2bc3@mail.gmail.com>

http://reverendted.wordpress.com/

They want you to move to Orem, Utah.

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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Wed Jan 23 12:43:57 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:43:57 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] auto negoatiate - ethernet switch - common tale
Message-ID: <609b18560801231243n4e96621erbb3f053a3ed9f42c@mail.gmail.com>

I have had the same problem with workstations - work for weeks then...
(even with hp WS and hp Procurve switches)

____________________________________________________________

The switch that failed had been set to auto negotiate. This usually works,
but not always, and on the morning of January 10th, it didn't.

Michael knew this could be a problem, but when he installed the switch, he
had forgotten to set the speed, so the switch was still in the
factory-default auto negotiate mode, which seemed to work fine. Until it
didn't.
the full story

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2008/01/22.html



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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Thu Jan 24 12:46:55 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:46:55 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] LFNW presentations and exhibits
Message-ID: <609b18560801241246j22a16e8sd37f59be828d361f@mail.gmail.com>

Please help spread the word - for both presentations and exhibitors.
You might check first to see who is already registered - see bottom 2 URLs.

_____________________________________
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008
From: mark at neolectric.com

Subject: [Fest-list] fest registrations 1/23/2008

To: fest-list at peakserv.com


_________________________
Exhibit at Linuxfest Northwest - sign-up at below URL:

http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/exhibit.html

__________________________
Present at Linuxfest Northwest - sign-up at below URL:

http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/present.html


_______________________
To view current registrations for exhibitors and presenters at LFNW
http://www.blug.org/fest2008/registered-exhibitors.html
http://www.blug.org/fest2008/registered-presenters.html


-=Mark


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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Thu Jan 24 18:39:01 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:39:01 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] MySQL - New Speakers and Sessions Announced
Message-ID: <609b18560801241839l7972d3fan994224a7a206d3cc@mail.gmail.com>

You'll also find link on www.psnug.org home page for MySQL conference.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: MySQL Conference & Expo <elists-admin at oreilly.com>
Date: Jan 24, 2008 5:26 PM

MySQL Conference & Expo
April 14-17, 2008
Santa Clara, CA
http://mysqlconf.com

Four Days To Harness the Power of MySQL--How Can You Do It All? Bring
Friends! Register by February 26 To Save $200

The largest gathering of MySQL developers, users, and DBAs worldwide, the
MySQL Conference & Expo draws more than 1,600 participants and offers more
than 100 sessions and tutorials, led by some of the leading visionaries in
the open source world. The four-day conference, co-produced by MySQL AB
and O'Reilly Media, takes place April 14-17 in Santa Clara, CA.

Register now at http://en.oreilly.com/mysql2008/public/content/register,
where you'll find complete information on the many discounts available,
including special pricing for companies who want to send a team to take
advantage of all the conference offers. Register by February 26, and every
registrant saves $200!

Fifteen Tracks for Every MySQL Application
You can choose the topics, sessions, and tutorials that suit your
interests from tracks that include Architecture and Technology; Business
and Case Studies; Data Warehousing and Business Intelligence; Java; LAMP;
Performance Tuning and Benchmarks; PHP and MySQL; Replication and
Scale-Out; Ruby and MySQL; .NET/Windows; MySQL Cluster and High
Availability; Migration; Security and Database Administration; Storage
Engine Development and Optimization; Web 2.0, Ajax, and Emerging
Technologies.

More than 100 Sessions, Dozens of Stellar Speakers
Keynotes confirmed include Marten Mickos (MySQL AB), Rick Falkvinge
(founder of the Swedish Pirate Party), and Jacek Becia (Stanford Linear
Accelerator Center).
Expert speakers from A to Z include:
-Andrew Aksyonoff (Sphinx Technologies) -- Sphinx: High Performance Full
Text Search for MySQL
-Tobias Asplund (MySQL AB) -- MySQL Performance Under a Microscope: The
Tobias and Jay Show
-Ask Bjorn Hansen (Developer) -- Real World Web: Performance and
Scalability, MySQL Edition
-James Blair and Paul Fisher (UC Berkeley) -- Using MySQL Cluster in a
High Volume Email Environment
-Mark Callaghan (Google) -- Helping InnoDB Scale on Servers with Many CPU
Cores and Disks
-Colin Charles (MySQL AB) -- Paying It Forward: Harnessing the MySQL
Contributory Resources
-Blaine Cook (Twitter, Inc.) -- Big Bird (Scaling Twitter)
-Mariella Di Giacomo and Geoff Harrison (The Hive) -- Lessons Learned in
Building a Highly Scalable MySQL Database
-Seth Fitzsimmons (Yahoo! Inc.) -- Using MySQL's Spatial Extensions with
Rails
-Patrick Galbraith (Grazr Inc.) -- Replication for Dummies
-Derek Gottfrid (The New York Times) -- DBSlayer: A Simpler Way To Proxy
-Mike Hilyer (Message Systems) -- How To Be Normal, a Guide for
Developers
-Kenji Hirohama (Sumisho Computer Systems Corp.) -- Scaling Japan's
Largest Blogging Service
-Sean Kelly (Stumbleuponit.com) -- Financial Informatics: Startup Low-Cost
Dataload Challenges and Solutions
-Sheeri Kritzer Cabral (The Pythian Group) -- Best Practices for Database
Administrators
-Kian-Tat Lim (Stanford Linear Accelerator Center) -- Astronomy,
Petabytes, and MySQL
-Sigurd Magnusson (SilverStripe) -- Upgrading to Elegant and Versatile
Database Architecture Using PHPS Data Objects
-Farhan Mashraqi (Fotolog) -- Optimizing MySQL and InnoDB on Solaris 10
for World's Largest Photo Blogging Community
-Brian Moon (dealnews.com) -- MySQL Hacks and Tricks To Make Phorum Fast
-Eric Ries (IMVU) -- Just-in-Time Scalability: Agile Methods To Support
Massive Growth
-Baron Schwartz (The Rimm-Kayfman Group, LLC) -- EXPLAIN Demystified
-Marc Taillieu (Roadtrips) -- The Ticket Department
-Cicero Torteli (Paggo) -- MySQL Cluster with Replication for Financial
Transactions
-Beat Vontobel (MeteoNews AG) -- The Lost Art of the Self Join
-Eli White (Digg.com) -- Help, My Website Has Been Hacked! Now What?
-Michael G. Zinner (MySQL AB) -- MySQL Workbench: Advanced Migration,
Schema Maintenance, and Reporting
This is just a sampling, and speakers are being confirmed daily. To see an
updated roster, go to:
http://en.oreilly.com/mysql2008/public/schedule/speakers

Where else will you find the opportunity to meet face to face with this
huge cadre of engineers from around the world who are developing MySQL?
This is your chance to share ideas, ask questions, and get your toughest
questions answered by MySQL experts.

The MySQL sponsors and exhibitors are very excited about the opportunity
to meet you and to showcase their groundbreaking products and services.
This year's Expo is shaping up to be the best ever, including a passport
program that will give attendees the chance to win some really fabulous
prizes!  We hope to see you there!  Sponsorship opportunities are going
fast, to assure a place for your organization, please contact Sharon
Cordesse at:
scordesse at oreilly.com

Sponsors and exhibitors currently on board include: Sun Microsystems,
Microsoft, OpSource, Tokuteck, Google, Data Direct Technologies, XAware,
Pentaho Corporation, Dolphin Interconnect Solutions, Talend, Infobright,
Inc., R1Soft, JasperSoft, HP, Continuent, ScaleDB, C2 Appliance and
Lingora.

Make sure you're signed up for the conference newsletter to
receive all the latest updates as plans for the MySQL
Conference & Expo progress (login required):
http://en.oreilly.com/mysql2008/public/sv/q/1

If you have ideas for speakers and topics that will make the conference a
must attend event, send them to:
mysql-idea at oreilly.com

For exhibition and sponsorship opportunities please email Sharon Cordesse
at scordesse at oreilly.com

For media and promotional partner opportunities please email Avila Reese
at mediapartners at oreilly.com

We hope you will join us in Santa Clara in April,

The 2008 MySQL Conference & Expo Team

P.S. Remember, register by February 26 to save $200, at:
http://en.oreilly.com/mysql2008/public/content/register

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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Fri Jan 25 17:15:57 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:15:57 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] Books - want a free one?
Message-ID: <609b18560801251715m44b8d5a4od6410bce68a95969@mail.gmail.com>

O'Reilly News for User Group Members      January 25, 2008

New Releases: Books, Short Cuts, and Rough Cuts

[image: Facebook: The Missing
Manual]<http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596517694/index.html>Get
35% off from O'Reilly, No Starch, Paraglyph, PC Publishing, Pragmatic
Bookshelf, Rocky Nook, SitePoint, or YoungJin books you purchase directly
from O'Reilly.* Just use code "DSUG"* when ordering
online<http://www.oreilly.com/store/>or by phone 800-998-9938.

*Free ground shipping* on orders of $29.95 or more. See
details<http://www.oreilly.com/news/freeshipping_0703.html>
.

Did you know you can *request a free* book or PDF to review for PSNUG group?

Ask Brandon Fouts for more information.

For book review writing tips and suggestions, go to:
http://ug.oreilly.com/bookreviews.html<http://ug.oreilly.com/bookreviews.html>

New Releases: Books, Short Cuts, and Rough Cuts:
 Ajax: The Definitive Guide <http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596528386>
 The Art & Science of JavaScript
(SitePoint)<http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780980285840>
 Augmented Reality @ Home (Pragmatic
Bookshelf)<http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9781934356036>
 The Book of Wireless (No Starch)<http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9781593271695>
 Building a Web 2.0 Portal with ASP.NET
3.5<http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510503>
 Facebook: The Missing Manual <http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596517694>
 iPhoto '08: The Missing Manual<http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596516185>
 Learning ActionScript 3.0 <http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596527877>
 Programming C# 3.0, Fifth
Edition<http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596527433>
 The Ruby Programming Language<http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596516178>
 Visualizing Data <http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596514556>
 Wikipedia: The Missing Manual<http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596515164>



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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Mon Jan 28 16:21:09 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:21:09 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] Linuxfest NW 2008 Call For Volunteers
Message-ID: <609b18560801281621t81f0b90k56746119b1cddc64@mail.gmail.com>

> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:42:47 -0800
> From: Adrian Klaver <aklaver at comcast.net>
>


> Subject: [Fest-list] Linuxfest NW 2008 Call For Volunteers
>


> The organizers of LinuxFest Northwest are looking for volunteers for this
> years Fest. The primary need is for room monitors.
>
> ROOM MONITORS:
> Greet the presenter.
> Make sure the audience does not exceed the room occupancy limit.
> Take an audience count.
> Make sure the presentation ends on time.
>
> If room monitoring is not your thing, there is also a need for general
> duty
> volunteers. This would entail exhibitor help and general chores.
>
> PERKS:
>
 We will try to match you up with presentations you want to see. This is
done

> on a first come, first served basis.
> Staff T-shirts until supply runs out. Please indicate size when you sign
> up.
>


> RETURNING VOLUNTEERS
> We will be using the same color shirts as last year. If you still have
> your
> shirt from last year, we ask that you use it again in order that we may
> stretch the budget. When you sign up please let me know if you already
> have a
> shirt.
>
> TIMES:
> The Fest is Saturday April 26th & Sunday April 27th, 2008. There will be a
> setup session the afternoon of Friday April 25th. This is generally from
> 5:00
> PM to 8:00 PM. The days of the Fest the doors open to Staff at 7:00 AM and
> to
> the public at 9:00 AM. The last presentation will end around 4:00 PM.
> There
> is a tear down session Sunday April 27th after the last presentation.
> These
> times are based on last years schedule. As this years schedule has not
> been
> set they may change.
>
> SIGN UP:
> http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/volunteer.html
> When you sign up it would be helpful if you would indicate what chores you
> are
> interested in and what days and time you are available.
>
>
> The more people that sign up the more we can spread the load. The hope is
> to
> have room monitors do no more than two presentations, so you can see the
> rest
> of the Fest. Last year we had 92 presentations, so we would like to have
> at
> least 46 volunteers sign up.
>
> If you have any questions feel free to contact me at the email address
> below.
>
> Thank you,
> --
> Adrian Klaver
> Volunteer Coordinator
> adrian at blug.org
>
> ------------------------------
>
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>        https://www.peakserv.com/mailman/listinfo/fest-list
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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Mon Jan 28 18:10:55 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:10:55 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] higher density CDs yet to come
Message-ID: <609b18560801281810l67f8d1dck217c4ade4056177c@mail.gmail.com>

Short-Wavelength Photonics  2008

Reductions in the operational wavelength of laser diodes into the blue and
violet has made possible the development of high-density recording media
such Blu-ray optical discs. Generally, the laser diodes at the heart of such
technology are formed from bulk crystals of GaN. *Matsubara et al.*
(p. 445<http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/short/319/5862/445>,
published online 20 December) now show that photonic crystal technology,
already demonstrated for surface-emitting lasers at infrared wavelengths,
can be scaled down to emit in the blue-violet regime. The possibility to
engineer the emission wavelength and polarization mode may enable even
higher optical storage densities.

So I guess our planning horizon is still only about 3 years - right?

____________________________________________

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray   -   some history

<snip>

The first consumer devices were in stores on April
10<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_10>,
2003 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003>. This device was the Sony BDZ-S77;
a BD-RE recorder that was only made available in Japan. The recommended
price was US$3800.[10]
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray#_note-9>However, there was no
standard for pre-recorded video (BD-ROM) and no movies
were released for this player. The Blu-ray Disc standard was still years
away, since a new and secure
DRM<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Rights_Management>system was
needed before Hollywood studios would accept it, not wanting to
repeat the failure of the Content Scramble
System<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_Scramble_System>for DVDs.

</snip>

4th quarter 2007 Blu-ray DVDs started shipping - you can read details from
above wikipedia URL.




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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Thu Jan 31 11:17:57 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:17:57 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] Packet Trap - network monitoring
Message-ID: <609b18560801311117k66cfbeb0v86d0b6574cee6bb3@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.packettrap.com/company/index.html

Sounds like a Novell type strategy:
(do an eval, and they will enter you into a $250 Amazon prize)
Our Commitment to the Open Source Community

PacketTrap is 100% committed to the open source community. We are firm
believers that open source software is here to stay and that most commercial
network management vendors have done a poor job building a bridge between
their solutions and open source projects. Open source applications and
projects will always be easily integrated into PacketTrap solutions.


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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Thu Jan 31 12:52:00 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:52:00 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] Open File Formats - must read regarding the
	management of electronic documents
Message-ID: <609b18560801311252k713a924aoa35fdf2a5bf6cf9b@mail.gmail.com>

 ALLIANCE RESPONSE TO ECMA'S PROPOSED DISPOSITION OF COMMENTS ON OOXML

 The Alliance report explains what is missing from the 2,293 pages of
proposed fixes? Inadequacy of a six-week review period for over 1,000
changes (the total number of "fixes" proposed by Ecma) and the
inappropriateness of the "fast-track" procedure (when normal procedures are
available) for a specification of this magnitude, the proposal: ignores the
request from several countries and EU advisory bodies for harmonization
between OOXML and the already ISO-approved ODF; adds to the confusion
between the trademarked name of OpenOffice (ODF's first implementation) and
the proposed standard, Office Open XML; introduces new errors, inadequately
addresses existing ones, and ignores many other errors altogether; inhibits
interoperability; and proposes contradictory solutions.

http://www.odfalliance.org/resources/Disposition%20of%20Comments.pdf


ODF ALLIANCE RESPONDS TO BURTON GROUP REPORT

  "What's Up, .DOC? ODF, OOXML, and the Revolutionary Implications of XML in
Productivity Applications." The Alliance analysis, which highlighted 18
errors and unsubstantiated conclusions contained in the Burton Group report,
was produced for the benefit of those who are now evaluating their options
regarding the management of electronic documents.

http://www.odfalliance.org/resources/BurtonGroupResponseFinal.pdf

below is complete newsletter


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Marino Marcich <mmarcich at odfalliance.org>

ODF Alliance Newsletter
30 January 2008

You can sign up to receive the free newsletter or download a PDF version:
http://www.odfalliance.org/mail_list.php.

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ODF YEAR-IN-REVIEW 2007 HIGHLIGHTS MAJOR GAINS WITH GOVERNMENTS, GROWING
APPS SUPPORT

The ranks of governments requiring the use of ODF continued to swell in
2007, as did the number of software vendors implementing support for ODF in
their products, according to a new annual report published by the ODF
Alliance. Major developments and milestones for ODF in 2007 included:

*The Netherlands and South Africa adopted policies requiring ODF's use by
government agencies, joining ten other countries that had already done so.

*ODF software support grew rapidly to include over 40 applications, with
more than a dozen announcements of new or improved support during the months
of September and October alone.

*The OASIS OpenDocument Technical Committee, which maintains the ODF
specification, reached consensus about extensible metadata for the upcoming
ODF v1.2 specification, which among these and many other new features will
come with digital-signature support. A first draft of the spreadsheet
formula specification that will also become a part of ODF v1.2.

*Accessibility-related improvements were incorporated into ODF v1.1,
allowing ODF to meet or exceed the accessibility features of any other
office document format.

http://www.odfalliance.org/resources/AnnualReport2007.pdf


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ALLIANCE RESPONSE TO ECMA'S PROPOSED DISPOSITION OF COMMENTS ON OOXML

ISO fast-track procedures provide the submitter of a proposed standard, in
this case Ecma, the opportunity to address the problems that national
standards bodies (NBs) identified in the hope of persuading them to change
their vote. Ecma's Proposed Disposition of Comments was published on January
14. The Alliance report explains what is missing from the 2,293 pages of
proposed fixes? Beyond the inadequacy of a six-week review period for over
1,000 changes (the total number of "fixes" proposed by Ecma) and the
inappropriateness of the "fast-track" procedure (when normal procedures are
available) for a specification of this magnitude, the proposal: ignores the
request from several countries and EU advisory bodies for harmonization
between OOXML and the already ISO-approved ODF; adds to the confusion
between the trademarked name of OpenOffice (ODF's first implementation) and
the proposed standard, Office Open XML; introduces new errors, inadequately
addresses existing ones, and i
 gnores many other errors altogether; inhibits interoperability; and
proposes contradictory solutions.

http://www.odfalliance.org/resources/Disposition%20of%20Comments.pdf


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ODF COMMUNITY BLOG LAUNCHED

Want to inform a global audience about document freedom in your part of the
world? Or vent a little? The new ODF Community Blog may be your ticket.
Simply send me a proposed topic followed by a draft post.

ODF Community Blog - http://www.odfalliance.org/blog/


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PARANA, BRAZIL JOINS GROWING RANKS OF REGIONAL GOVERNMENTS REQUIRING USE OF
ODF

Continuing the trend at the national level, Paran?, a state in southern
Brazil, became the second regional government in South America and sixth
globally to adopt ODF. On December 18th 2007 the Legislative Assembly
approved a law requiring all public administrations and autonomous bodies
and companies under state control to adopt ODF (ISO 26300: 2006) for the
creation, storage and display of digital documents.

https://www.documentos.dioe.pr.gov.br/dioe/servlet/SltDownloadPdf?ec=kWyYWYpWYZwYEWyEWKw&arquivo_codigo=3694
(in Portuguese)


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UK EDUCATIONAL BODY ADVISES SCHOOLS AGAINST SAVING IN OOXML

Becta, the UK government's lead agency for ICT in educational development,
has published a review of Microsoft's Vista and Office 2007 products. In the
report, UK schools using Office 2007 are advised not to save in Microsoft's
new Office Open XML format (.docx, .xlsx, .pptx) in order to ensure widest
compatibility of files between different computers. Due to limitations in
Microsoft's implementation of ODF (via a plug-in), the report warns, users
of Office 2007 should continue to use the more widely adopted .doc, .xls and
.ppt formats.

http://publications.becta.org.uk/display.cfm?resID=35276


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UNIVERSITIES NOW MAKING THE MOVE TO ODF

The University of Salamanca in Spain has just passed a regulation that
requires open access in its electronics documents; specifically, ODF for
text, presentation and spreadsheets where the document needs to be modified
by the recipient; PDF/A for documents requiring longer-term preservation;
and HTML/XHTML for documents on the university's web site.

http://oca.usal.es/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=110
(in Spanish)


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ODF ALLIANCE RESPONDS TO BURTON GROUP REPORT

The ODF Alliance published a response to a Burton Group report entitled
"What's Up, .DOC? ODF, OOXML, and the Revolutionary Implications of XML in
Productivity Applications." The Alliance analysis, which highlighted 18
errors and unsubstantiated conclusions contained in the Burton Group report,
was produced for the benefit of governments and others who are now
evaluating their options regarding the management of electronic documents.

http://www.odfalliance.org/resources/BurtonGroupResponseFinal.pdf


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REPORT FINDS ACCESSIBILITY GUIDELINES REMAIN UNSUPPORTED BY OOXML

The white paper, "Accessibility Issues with OOXML," by Jutta Treviranus,
Director of the Adaptive Technology Resource Centre and Dr. Stephen A.
Hockema, faculty member of Information Studies - both at the University of
Toronto - has been updated in response to Microsoft claims that many of the
unsupported accessibility guidelines discussed in the white paper were, upon
further analysis by Microsoft, actually supported by OOXML.  The updated
white paper, however, finds these new claims misleading and that in almost
all of these cases, the accessibility checkpoint is not satisfied despite
Microsoft's amended claims.

http://atrc.utoronto.ca/index.php?option=com_content&sectionid=14&task=view&hidemainmenu=1&id=371


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NEW OR IMPROVED ODF APPLICATIONS SUPPORT

The Alliance is happy to highlight new or improved applications support for
ODF, so please keep us informed of any product announcements.

Wikipedia: Announced plans to add ODF for word processors to the list of
export formats.
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikis_Go_Printable

ODF-XSLT Document Generator: This library written in PHP 5 brings the full
power of XSLT to your ODF files.
http://www.jejik.com/odf-xslt/


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NEW ODF ALLIANCE MEMBERS

Please welcome the following new members: QindelGroup (Spain); Carvalho
Azevedo & Martins Braz -
Advocacia|Consultoria Jur?dica (Portugal); Administra??o Central do
Advocacia|Sistema de Sa?de (Portugal); F&B Sistemas (Ecuador); SEA
Tecnologia (Brazil); and Instituto de Governo Eletr?nico, Intelig?ncia
Jur?dica e Sistemas (Brazil)


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ODF IN THE NEWS

Study: Open Document Format gained momentum in '07 (Chris Kanaracus, IDG
News Service)
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/010408-study-open-document-format-gained.html?page=2

Office 2003 SP3 Disables Old Files (Mark Long, Sci-Tech Today)
http://www.sci-tech-today.com/news/Office-2003-SP3-Disables-Old-Files/story.xhtml?story_id=010001473O0Q

Remembrance of things past (Glyn Moody)
http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2008/01/remembrance-of-things-past.html

Public Request For Microsoft To Release Deprecated File Formats (Slashdot)
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/15/139215

EU opens new cases against Microsoft (Vnunet.com)
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2207211/eu-opens-cases-against

EU Opens Two New Investigations Against Microsoft ? One Involving OOXML
http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20080114105017559

How Will EU Microsoft Probe Impact Open Office XML? (Jennifer LeClaire,
Enterprise Software)
http://www.toptechnews.com/story.xhtml?story_id=1000039ILIMO

Defend it? Of course, but what's next for Open Office XML?(NetworkWorld)
http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/24078

ODF Vs. OOXML: Someone Is, Indeed, Writing A Book (Serdar Yegulalp,
InformationWeek)
http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2008/01/odf_vs_ooxml_so.html

ODF Alliance strikes back at report (James Archibald, Tectonic)
http://www.tectonic.co.za/?p=2050

The world does not need a "conversion nightmare": a standard office file
format already exists (Tony Mobily, Free Software Magazine)
http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/editorial_22



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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:03:52 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] Google and Mono
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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 09:59:27 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] DMS - Document Management System - tips from
	ngw list
Message-ID: <609b18560802010959m77484139obc4576d718eecec4@mail.gmail.com>

Why would you bother to SEARCH list servers or Forums ?

Below is an example of what you can find
- research is a critical part of planning - and should NOT be rushed

If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to fix it?


>>> "Simon Shilton" <Simon.Shilton at acustica.co.uk> Friday, 1 February 2008
4:08 am >>>

GroupWise DMS, I couldn't work without it.

As others have suggested, planning and user training are the two major keys
to success.

My shot at your questions:

1) Full text search within DMS of PDF files doesn't actually happen, despite
some of the docs claiming it does - this is probably this single biggest
bugbear for many DMS users, because otherwise the full text search is
massively useful - our workaround is to store most PDFs on an OEs server
with Search server running, which DOES full text index PDFs - this is
acceptable because for us PDFs are mainly static reference docs, rather than
active docs

2) we have never used archiving - I am with Grgg on this, we keep all docs
in the libraries as a searchable knowledge pool

3) As Taryn we set up 3 or 4 libraries on a departmental basis, then use
sharing rights to control access within libraries

4) In my experience Office 2003 is the only version close to 100%
straightforward (Excel excepted) - Office XP went south after GW7 ir1 last
December (see forums) - and I haven't got Office 2007 or OpenOffice.org to
work without having to do backflips either. I have never tried WordPerfect
Office, so cannot comment on that.

5) the forums are for SUPPORT so tend to be addressed by people with
PROBLEMS, when I don't have a problem (99.99% of the time) I don't post to
the forums.......

I have one last comment on storage location, specifically as Taryn suggested
storage OFF the Post Office...... now this used to be the defacto "best
practice" for the exact reasons stated, however developments in the past few
years have rather changed this, and my personal painful experience.....

Firstly, storage has become MUCH less expensive, so you don't need to think
about it as the same sort of limitation as it was 10 years ago when I set up
our libraries. Secondly afaik if you ever want to cluster GW you MUST have
the libraries ON the POA to be successful. Thirdly, if you wish to use
Reload and have it handle the libraries automatically for you they MUST be
ON the POA to be successful. There isn't a nice way of moving thousands of
documents from OFF to ON library storage should either of these two aspects
become important........

as mentioned, planning is everything....... but it is worth it

Best of luck
Simon


>>> On 26 January 2008 at 08:35, in message <
479B7D61.4779.0076.3 at silverdane.com>, "Taryn Lazarus" <
Taryn.Lazarus at silverdane.com> wrote:

LOVE GroupWise DMS!!!! Could NOT live without it!

Only complaint is that it is not high on the development road map agenda so
new features are accidental rather than intended.

I have been involved in loads of DMS implementations over the years.  The
biggest issue that any of the clients I have worked with have had is end
user training.  This is ESSENTIAL if you want to have a successful
implementation, as DMS requires a slight mindset adjustment, but hey we can
all do with one of those every now and then.

Let me address your questions:

1) All parts of GroupWise DMS do what they were intended to do and more.
However there are a few challenges- for example DMS does not yet out of the
box work with Microsoft Office 2007 nor Open Office without using the
check-in check-out functionality. (If you are happy to use this then sweet)
Custom development can be done to make this work and there are a few places
who have done this already, not sure if they are selling it as licensed
product though.

2) The archiving component can be done using off site archiving.  I
appreciate Gregg's comments, but I haven't found that to be an issue if the
Libraries aren't stored under the post office.  Store the documents
separately because you don't want your post office store to get enormous and
your document store to get enormous and end up with an out of control disk
situation.....which is probably why you are talking about archiving right?

The key here, is plan how you will archive documents now.  Don't wait until
you want to archive them. And get a good understanding of how the archiving
works.

3) Definitely don't create a library per project.  We commonly implemented
libraries for security.  IE in any given organisation we might have a
Management Library, a Finance Library, an HR Library and an Organisational
Library.  Think of access to documents and security like keys to a room in a
building.  You need the key to the building (the library) a key to get you
to the right floor (the document) and then a key to let you into the room
(the particular version)  With all keys you have access.  With only two- you
are stuck and don't have rights.
Library security is set by administrators and then document and version
security set by users and librarians.
Gregg's idea of looking at the custom properties page and working out the
metadata that you would like to store against each item is a good one.

4) Office XP Works well.  2007 doesn't work without customisation, neither
does Open Office. Although you could do check in and check out, but it is
honestly painful.  Open Office is much much cheaper, but then you have the
retraining issue of staff- but the cost benefits might be worth it.  I know
that Brainstorm Inc <http://www.brainstorminc.com/> do awesome quick start
training cards and computer based training for these products.

5) The discontented are discontent due to poor planning, and no investment
in training, not to mention too lazy to read the documentation.  The
documentation is excellent.  The security is excellent.   Space savings are
to be had, don't know how but Novell manage to compress the files to a
smaller size very nicely.  I cannot stress enough that planning is critical
and user education is critical.  Your DMS System will fail without these two
things.

Hope this helps



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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 14:00:16 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] Novell Webcast: Explore your Server
	Virtualization Options
Message-ID: <609b18560802051400v6a7818d8kc9f8c70827e830f8@mail.gmail.com>

FYI - it is "on demand" so you sign up and view - ~ 30 min

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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:41:28 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] How Email used in $7 billion bank fraud
Message-ID: <609b18560802051641w36c3b3e2m9ec8ce0cc6e8f0fd@mail.gmail.com>

French Bank trading fraud case

<snip>
*I provided false evidence of these transactions, basically forged emails. I
created a forged email using a capability available to me in our internal
messaging system, basically a function that enables me to reuse the header
of an email that was sent to me while replacing the email's content. I was
then able to type the text I wanted and the email appeared as being genuine.
*

That is an extraordinary statement in and of itself and should sound the
alarm for any organization that depends on emails' contents for executing
critical decisions. Basically, casual conversations asside, if you cannot
tie an email's content to a verifiable origin, you shouldn't act on the
contents.

And while there are a few email authentication schemes around, it's
important to note that few enable recipients to reliably tie a body to its
real-world origin (i.e. a legally-formed company or actual individual) and
much less tie headers' contents to a body, especially as header content
changes greatly in transit. A decent email authentication mechanism should
be robust enough to continue providing recipients with verifiable
information even when some email parts might have changed. For example, it
should allow the recipient to check the validity of the body's content even
if the "to" or "from" or even "subject" fields may have changed in transit.

</snip>
http://blog.kryptiva.com/2008/01/why-strong-em-1.html


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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:19:21 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] Basics of sys admin - great review
Message-ID: <609b18560802072219x4355a968safb998facbfab7cb@mail.gmail.com>

http://dormando.livejournal.com/484577.html

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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:23:24 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] MS comments on OOXML
Message-ID: <609b18560802072223r429f7c42xca5caf3ae17a13ee@mail.gmail.com>

But the real revelation comes with Tsilas's quote that "IBM have asked
governments to have an open-source, exclusive purchasing policy. Our
competitors have targeted this one product ? mandating one document format
over others to harm Microsoft's profit stream."

Perhaps it is a mere slip of the tongue that has Tsalis mixing up open
source with open standards. There are good arguments for and against
mandating open source in government ? protecting business models or profit
streams should not be among them ? but open standards are a very different
matter. Microsoft has said all along that OOXML will be just as open as
OpenDocument Format (ODF). How, then, can adopting the latter "harm
Microsoft's profit stream"? And since when has an open standard been "a
product"?
Tsilas is admitting, more explicitly than implicitly, that Microsoft's
profit depends on it controlling standards and that OOXML is a product
designed to do exactly that. The mask has slipped and the nature of this
particular war is on display.

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/leader/0,1000002982,39292519,00.htm?r=1?user_rating=1


 PS - it is MS spec, NOT OOo spec.



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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 11:12:58 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] Fwd: Upcoming 7 Tech NW Plone Trainings
In-Reply-To: <47AEEBE9.3070403@7technw.com>
References: <47AEEBE9.3070403@7technw.com>
Message-ID: <609b18560802111112k3d1e48aaubfb19fc47d3b458e@mail.gmail.com>

NOTE: online and coming trainings at Plone.org <http://plone.org/> and
7technw.com/training


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7 Tech Northwest is proud to announce these upcoming trainings in the first
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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:46:03 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] make OOo better than MS Office - here is how
Message-ID: <609b18560802111846ofcede5co36e2486b56499bf1@mail.gmail.com>

http://maketecheasier.com/12-must-have-openoffice-extensions/2008/02/11

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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:41:02 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] hp/compaq ML server with hot swap drives 3.5"
Message-ID: <609b18560802130841n77ab5066k896f763a41710469@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone have one of these that still works?
will you "sell" for parts?

please Email brando.fouts at gmail.com  if you know of such a server


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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:20:35 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] Sitescape - ICEcore - important GW trend/news
Message-ID: <609b18560802131420j33ecd400ye94c9db5f1df3159@mail.gmail.com>

Acquisition Demonstrates Long-term Commitment to Collaboration and
GroupWiseMerger
will create interoperable, open source and open standards-based workspaces
for team productivity

Consistent with Novell's commitment to interoperabilty, Novell Teaming +
Conferencing runs on both Linux* and Windows*, and works with Lotus Notes*
and Microsoft Exchange*, in addition to GroupWise.


press release:
http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-delivers-open-collaboration-with-sitescape-acquisition/

demo and eval:
http://www.novell.com/promo/acquisition.jsp


http://www.novell.com/collaboration/
___________
just a part of - and GW is integrated as well:
http://www.novell.com/products/teaming/

http://www.novell.com/collaboration/commit.html
http://www.novell.com/

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Here is the Open Source project:
http://www.icecoreopen.org/web/icecore_guest
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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:20:46 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] DSL cable TV for business quality?
Message-ID: <609b18560802132220j4ededec1wd74e93dd63a24ced@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone trying DSL or Cable TV for business ISP connection to the internet?

Is it up to T-1 frame relay level of service?

(bleeding edge - wireless internet access for your office ??)



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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:27:26 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] real tight security for your server
Message-ID: <609b18560802132327o16025343wcf0392caf99cd186@mail.gmail.com>

http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/Apparmor_FAQ


check bottom of below page to see which distributions have Apparmor included

http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/Apparmor


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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:19:28 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] BOMGAR - remote access for end users to your LAN
Message-ID: <609b18560802171819s689123e4ha9618ab3818c0b86@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.bomgar.com/video/videos.htm

You'll also find web-casts on this appliance type products

eval down loads - free of course

anyone have experience or heard anything about this one?

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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:28:16 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] Linux Fest North West - OLPC and XO
Message-ID: <609b18560802171928y1f5d179dyc260b6a4cbbc47c7@mail.gmail.com>

just a heads up on one of the activities in the works for LFNW:

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Today's Topics:

  1. LFNW08: Announcement of OLPC -One Laptop Per Child-  XO Laptop
presentation track, vendor table, dedicated presentation/learning lab area.
     (Iain (FreeGeek) Davidson)

From: "Iain (FreeGeek) Davidson" <iain at freegeek.org>

(  I wanted to officially announce some news for  LinuxFest Northwest 2008
)

I have been working diligently behind the scenes to help the presence of

            One Laptop per Child (OLPC) and XO Laptops

 at this year's upcoming

          LinuxFest Northwest 2008 -- http://LinuxFestNorthWest.org/

Carrying forward from last year's Jessie's excellent (and very well
attended) Red Hat / OLPC presentation [1] ,  momentum and awareness of  OLPC
has increased exponentially.  With the initial public release in November of
the XO Laptop to mass production.  Limited fund raising event of the Give 1
Get 1 [2] program from November to December, created over 80,000 orders in 6
weeks. Which in turn started sending 'gift' XO Laptop first round
installations into countries (and children's hands) such as *Mongolia,
Haiti, Rwanda, Ethiopia, Cambodia,* and *Afghanistan. *

Online resources for OLPC / XO Laptop is also growing quickly, with great
overviews on http://laptop.org , and 5000+ pages of information on *
http://wiki.laptop.org*  including specific pages for support related
questions via http://support.laptop.org .

Huge growing XO Laptop presence in Seattle [3] and other Pacific Northwest
areas, volunteer community based support and repair shops popping up in
several locations throughout Washington and Oregon, and the rest of the
nation.

Exciting stuff to be sure, especially in the realm of Free and Open Source
Software (FOSS),  XO Laptop focus is 100% open source [4] ! ! !

In respect to the* Linuxfest Northwest 2008 conference*, several things. . .
.

So far there has been enough presenters and volunteers stepping forward,
   that the LFNW event organizers have given a green light and background
support for...

o  A specific OLPC / XO Laptop presentation track !
o  A dedicated vendors table for OLPC information and XO Laptop
demonstration
o  A specific dedicated room for presentations, discussions, and learning
lab environment.
o  Special coordination with Robotics and Solar/alternative energy
presentation tracks with locations nearby !

Several special and very active OLPC community supporters have confirmed
attendance too. . .

* Mel Chua (mchua) - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Mchua
           OLPC Jam organizer [5], Google Summer of Code receiptent for
2007, XO Laptop repair shop coordinator, Wiki editor, IRC support, etc
           (A tip-of-the-hat to Candela Technologies Inc
http://www.candelatech.com , for covering the costs to fly her in from
the *eastcoast *area)

* Seth Woodworth (isforinsects) -
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Sethwoodworth
  OLPC organizer of public documents/media, learning materials, images, and
other resources, also developer, support volunteer. Weekly Zine editor

* Iain Davidson (ixo) - (oh, that's me:) http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Ixo
           OLPC Grassroots, support volunteer, wiki editor, Weekly Zine
founder, IRC support, Activity developer, and volunteer XO repair shop.

BTW,   the interest by LFNW08 for OLPC/XO Laptop has also helped to create
another OLPC Health Jam [6] event as part of the Health conference in
Seattle !

  (And hope to see the results of this event, presented at LFNW too ! )

We still have many *opportunities still available* for LFNW volunteers, and
hoping to increase presence and awareness even further.

*  Presentations about OLPC / XO Laptop experiences
  * Implementation
  * Development
  * Hardware
  * Software
  * Personal experiences with developing countries and what can be done to
help.
  * Alternative methods for powering equipment (solar, wind, generator,
etc...)
*  A conference vendor to run a XS Server or centralized 'OLPC jabberd'
server for special conference networking, mesh, or sharing demonstrations.
*  Help assist with learning lab environment, and presentations
*  Offering other items for the auction, or encourage vendors to exhibit !

Please visit the LinuxFest Northwest 2008, website for further information,
or check out the starting OLPC wiki page for the latest....
  ( http://wiki.laptop.org/go/LinuxFest_Northwest_2008 )

Especially, please *bring OLPC / XO Laptops* to the conference, to help
demonstrate the power of mesh networking and sharing activities !
 (Many free WiFi hotspots throughout Bellingham, and (likely) during the
conference.... even several T-Mobile locations :)

I am very excited to see this come to fruition, hope to see you and many XO
Laptops there !

-Iain Davidson
(aka ixo , on OLPC support-gang, irc  #olpc-help , #olpc and email lists:
grassroots, support-gang, developer, help etc.)

p.s. Sorry, I was unable to swing a deal for a special group-purchase of XO
Laptop equipment in time for the conference.  Support your local school
system, in doing a community group "Give Many Get Many" for your local area.

NOTES:
[1] Jessie's OLPC Presentation link: http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/2007.html
[2] G1G1 Program: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Give1Get1
[3] Seattle XO user group:  http://www.seaxo.com/
[4] Runs a "lite version" of Red Hat Fedora Core 7 , python is primary
programming language !
[5] OLPC Jams: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Jams
[6] Health Jam Seattle: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Health_Jam
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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:43:53 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] LFNW presentations and exhibits - works in
	progress
Message-ID: <609b18560802171943u2a6a249anc84e3f7b4ef2d1a6@mail.gmail.com>

Sam,
Can you let me know if you read this one?
seems like Mono and Moonlite people might be interested, along with SUSE
build services, and give developers more choices than just RedHat

thanks, Brandon.

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Subject: cross platform development and other ideas

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From: Dave Smead <smead at amplepower.com>

Someone mentioned that they developed software that ran on Windows and
Linux.

That would make a great end-user topic because anybody considering a
switch to Linux would feel more comfortable knowing that the same program
ran on either.  For this category of people, a side by side comparison of
programs would be excellent, i.e. here's Office and here's OpenOffice.

The topic would also be good for software developers. There have to be
some Windows programmers who'd like to know what tools and processes are
used to make cross-platform applications.

I haven't used a Windows machine since 1994, but as a developer, I'd still
be interested in what it takes to design a program that would work on
Windows as well as Linux.

The Opensource community has done a remarkable job of writing programs
that run on Linux and perform similarly or the same as Windows apps.  I
don't know how well it has done writing new apps that run on either, but
that seems to me a good way to infiltrate a Windows machine.  At some
point the Window's user has to ask why they are spending money on an
upgrade when all their apps run on Linux.

David Smead
www.amplepower.com

-------------------------------------
From: Jakob Perry <japerry at jademicrosystems.com>

Dave:

At techtonic I plan to a presentation close to what you describe. I'll
be using both windows and OSX to show off open source applications. Carl
will then be showing them all running on linux.

I think I'll be doing another presentation at linuxfest, but I could
give presentation notes from techtonic to anyone who might want to do
such a presentation at linuxfest.

~Jakob Perry

JADE Microsystems
japerry at jademicrosystems.com
Cell: 360-739-6709
AIM: japerry007

------------------------------

From: Mark Ashworth <mark at neolectric.com>

Dave Smead wrote:

> I haven't used a Windows machine since 1994, but as a developer, I'd still
be interested in what it takes to design a program that would work on
Windows as well as Linux.

Are you referring to a desktop application with a GUI? Write it in Java
with a swing GUI. Looks and runs about the same on Windows and Linux.
You have to remember to use the defined file path separator instead of /
or \.

I read somewhere that KDE was being ported to Windows. I haven't tried
the KDE developer stuff in a few years. I would guess that GTK is
somewhat portable.

--Mark
------------------------------
From: "James Mason" <JMASON at yamatoengines.com>

I think that Gimp, Pidgin, and Inkscape demonstate that GTK is more than
'somewhat' portable.

And yes, as of KDE 4.1, KDE as a DE, and individual KDE applications will
run on Linux, Mac, or Windows.

But personally, I still favor web apps (I don't like installers).

James Mason
Safety & Environmental Director/Systems Administrator
Yamato Engine Specialists
360-733-1916 x5017

----------------------------------------
From: Mark Ashworth <mark at neolectric.com>

From: "James Mason" <JMASON at yamatoengines.com>

Subject: [Fest-list]

BoF? Are there going to be any Birds of a Feather sessions this year?  Q&A
with a panel is usually a good draw for broad topics.

James Mason
Safety & Environmental Director/Systems Administrator
Yamato Engine Specialists
360-733-1916 x5017

_____________________________________________________________________

From: Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com>

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:31:37 -0800
"James Mason" <JMASON at yamatoengines.com> wrote:

> Are there going to be any Birds of a Feather sessions this year?  Q&A
> with a panel is usually a good draw for broad topics.

I'd love to do a Fedora Birds of a Feather session

--
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours?
------------------------------

From: Jed Reynolds <jed at bitratchet.com>

James Mason wrote:
> Are there going to be any Birds of a Feather sessions this year?  Q&A
> with a panel is usually a good draw for broad topics.

Like "hallway bofs" or "classroom bofs" ? An impromptu list in the cafeteria
or suggestions to the Fest list?

Jed
------------------------------
From: Mark Ashworth <mark at neolectric.com>

Jed Reynolds wrote:
> James Mason wrote:
>> Are there going to be any Birds of a Feather sessions this year?  Q&A
>> with a panel is usually a good draw for broad topics.
>
> Like "hallway bofs" or "classroom bofs" ? An impromptu list in the
> cafeteria or suggestions to the Fest list?
>

Do you folks envision BOFs happening during the presentation timeslots or
later in the day? Would you be willing to do BOFs on Sunday rather than
Saturday?

--Mark
------------------------------

From: Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Fest-list] BoF?
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:35:30 -0800

Mark Ashworth <mark at neolectric.com> wrote:

> Do you folks envision BOFs happening during the presentation
> timeslots or later in the day? Would you be willing to do BOFs on
> Sunday rather than Saturday?

Later in the day is difficult with all the after sessions activities
planned.

On Sunday seems like a perfect way to fill out the presentation schedule.

--
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours?

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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:52:56 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] open source alternatives to Verisign?
Message-ID: <609b18560802171952p4e5a8031k308f8fea392609f8@mail.gmail.com>

http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/FAQ/AssuranceIntroduction
http://www.cacert.org/

Looks like open source alternatives to Verisign
http://www.verisign.com/


anyone care to comment? have any knowledge on this topic?


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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:40:09 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] GW comparisons
Message-ID: <609b18560802181240o1af41026q9cedd3da63158457@mail.gmail.com>

FYI -

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To: ngw at ngwlist.com

GW comparisons

You probably know these links :

http://gwcheck.biz/exchange/gug-nl/john_ellis_10_reasons.pdf
http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/19593.html
http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/19518.html

http://www.novell.com/products/groupwise/compare.html

Older links (Exchange 2000):
http://www.redjuju.com/resources/compare/exchangeupgrade.htm


Gert
GWCheck.com - Is your GroupWise ready ?
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Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:13:29 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] Fwd: Andres Kohn discusses PCI and GLBA
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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:11:44 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] ODF - developments and toolkits
Message-ID: <609b18560802191811w711230abqe55b5dee2b042747@mail.gmail.com>

<snip>
One of the points I think that Ian is trying to emphasize is that ODF has
broad application support.  Representatives from the MS party are still
spreading disinformation / misinformation regarding ODF, in particular
trying to represent it as something both marginal and in use only by
OpenOffice.org and derivatives.  You know that's not true.  I know it's
not true, and so does everyone else here.  However, effort needs to be
taken that even your average slob can pick up on the fact that ODF is
widely supported and beyond a single application.

-Lars
</snip>

read this paragraph on the below home page:
http://www.odfalliance.org/

read this overview paragraph:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=office#overview

careful of MS claims in the Criticism section - of course, the nature
of Wikipedia you usually want to "trust but verify"
and heavy on the verify - it is open editing after all. So fix
mistakes when YOU find them - that's how it works:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument
<snip>
Engineer - Sun Microsystems wrote:
> >
> >> This project will increase the visibility of OOo through the ODF and
> >> will strengthen the position of the OOo community as the experts in ODF.
> >
> > There is also a downside to this in that the real benefit of ODF over MS
> > OOXML is that ODF is multi-application. If the impression is
> > that ODF is effectively controlled by OpenOffice.org (or
> > worse, Sun) and not OASIS, it will significantly weaken that advantage.
>
> First of all, *ODF is of course controlled by OASIS*

below is how open source projects often start:

> Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit
>
> Scope Summary
> The scope of the "ODF Toolkit" OpenOffice.org project is:
>
> 1. To improve the ability to use OpenOffice.org as a programming
> framework for creating and processing ODF documents rather than to use
> it as a desktop application. This will be achieved by transforming an
> appropriate subset from the OpenOffice.org source code basis, and by
> adapting it to the new purpose.
>
> 2. To provide a home for components that can be used for processing ODF
> documents and that are either based on the new ODF Toolkit, or
> complement it.
>
> Both together will constitute the ODF Toolkit, which is a toolkit for
> office document creation and processing based on ODF.
> This toolkit will share its source code with the OpenOffice.org desktop
> application where ever this is reasonable.
> That is, based on the OpenOffice.org source code, there will be the
> OpenOffice.org suite, and an ODF Toolkit, which is tailored to
> processing office documents outside traditional office desktop
> applications.
>
> Developers interested in moving beyond office suite functionality to
> areas that express files as ODF, however "beyond" is imagined, are
> invited to join. We envision this project as giving all a hint of the
> potential of OpenOffice.org source and ODF.
>
>
> Project Proposers
> The project is proposed by:
>  Dieter Loeschky
>  J?rgen Schmidt
>  Kai Sommerfeld
>  Kay Ramme
>  Michael Brauer
>
> Regards,
> Dieter
>
This project will increase the visibility of OOo through the ODF and
will strengthen the position of the OOo community as the experts in ODF.
Thus, a big +1 from me.

Oliver.
</snip>

and now, here is the project -
*http://odftoolkit.openoffice.org/


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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Tue Feb 19 19:24:07 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:24:07 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] Office 2003 sp3 - warning?
Message-ID: <609b18560802191924u52a7df6dx9873f87dc9c540c3@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.odfalliance.org/resources/MicrosoftCutsOffAccess.pdf

http://www.news.com/2100-1012_3-6224462.html

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/141953/microsoft_warns_of_office_2003_sp3_autoupdate.html


And tell me again, who owns my data? MS Office? and why should I care?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938810  - well at least they tell you, feel
better now?

And if you need more reason of why you should be moving to ODF, check out
www.psnug.org - select  'Open Standards' from left navigation bar, and look
for ODF bottom of first Open Standards section


If you really want your data 'safely locked up by Microsoft' I hear that
Share Point will keep it safe, in MS SQL type database?
I'm not sure what database is used, but you might want to learn how to fix
orphaned sites:
http://blogs.msdn.com/krichie/archive/2005/10/25/484889.aspx     Part I
http://blogs.msdn.com/krichie/archive/2005/10/31/487365.aspx     Part II

You do have choices - open standards and open source choices - not only from
Novell.


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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:05:26 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] O'Reilly News for PNSUG members only
Message-ID: <609b18560802222105g29ce78a4vcc7ef86daa20aa20@mail.gmail.com>

>
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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Tue Feb 26 13:58:09 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:58:09 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] freeBSD 7.0
Message-ID: <609b18560802261358y2627faeeu664f2b3e5c5110fc@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2008/02/26/whats-new-in-freebsd-70.html

what's new - IP stack for one - faster

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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Thu Feb 28 16:24:24 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:24:24 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] PlateSpin alliances
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http://www.platespin.com/partners/alliances.aspx

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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Thu Feb 28 16:53:40 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:53:40 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] Large GroupWise Systems +100,000
Message-ID: <609b18560802281653y7ff459d8oa558b83d1671cf2@mail.gmail.com>

Subject:  Large GroupWise Systems

I cannot add to the 'hundreds of thousands' yet.  Best I have seen/worked
with personally is 20,000 for a new design and 15,000 for an existing
design.  I do know there are shops out there -on this list- that have stated
they have 40,000+.

GroupWise can scale in theory to hundreds of thousands based upon:
-Hardware,
-Design
-User Access -Client type (WebAccess, POP/IMAP, GW Online)

As for mailbox sizes -this is where you can see potential issues.  I have
seen small GW systems (1000 users) that have had 500 of those users with
mailboxes of 20GB or so.  They work fine.  But as the mailbox grows from
there -it can be an under performer.  At 40-60GB mailboxes, you definitely
will see some issues.

Let's look at the FID and sizing theory for a moment -because this can be a
# of users limiter.
A FID is 3 digit Alphanumeric character that is specific per post office.
 Thats 36 characters per digit.

36x36x36=46656 possible FID's per post offices.

Figure a max of about 256 post offices per domain -not 100% sure this is the
limit -but I believe its close.  Or their may not be a limit.
256 post offices x 46656 users per post office = 11,943,936 users per GW
domain

So in theory GW can scale.

Now let's look at practice -which is what you should do:
Post Office sizing suggests you look to access mode and contiguous access
(number of users accessing 1 post office at 1 moment in time).  See my
article on Post Office sizing:
http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/16094.html .

A post office can have up to 46,656 users, but if it does and you only allow
WebAccess to connect, AND they are 'light users' (email, some calendaring)
then you can have roughly, 5000 users connecting at 1 moment in time.
 Consider that a max. The numbers come from Novell TIDs.  But to be
conservative, I would plan for 4000 users at 1 moment in time.  Why? Well I
would rather give the system 'head room'.  And because I am conservative, I
would plan for no more than 40,000 users per post office total -give
yourself some room.

Then the next question: How many post offices do you want to have per
domain?
10 -or less.  Why?  Because the MTA will start to become too busy as your
scale higher to handle in a timely manner email hand off to other domains.
 In the 4000 users accessing in 1 moment in time -from above- I would look
to 5 post offices per domain.  Why?  Again being conservative and 5 post
offices x 4000 users at 1 moment in time (20,000 users) -will likely see the
MTA extremely busy.  If they are light users -should be ok.  If they are
heavy users, I would do less.  Heavy users are: shared folders, shared
address books, proxy, doc. mgmt., etc.  You can clearly see that would drain
a system.

Summary: 1 Domain with 5 post offices each with 40,000 users for a total of
200,000. Of those 200,000, 20,000 are accessing their email at 1 moment in
time as light users. On 6 servers and 1 very large, powerful SAN -and maybe
a cluster.

Next up:  WebAccess.
This one is a bit more fuzzy.  I have heard from strong Novell folks that
the Web Server portion -WebAccess Application -can support up to 1000 users
at 1 moment in time.  That said, I have been told by customers that they do
more than that.  And on Linux -maybe it will scale even more.

The WebAccess Agent -again I have heard 500 users accessing at 1 moment in
time is optimal high-end, but customers have told me they run a lot more.

Let's just say its 2000 per WebAccess Application and 1000 per WebAccess
Agent -with light user access (email/calendar).  You would need 10 WebAccess
Applications and 20 WebAccess Agents to meet the 20,000 users accessing at 1
moment in time.  Increase that for more head room to 15 and 25 respectively.
 Of course, you may find that you can get more users per application/agent.

Summary: 25 servers needed to run WebAccess Application and Agents.  Maybe
less if you see higher performance at the App/Agent level.

_______________
Not sure that gives you all you need but it does start to give a picture of
how GroupWise can scale.  A few assumptions are taken and you have to limit
your users to just email/calendar without all the bells and whistles.

And of course -if you need help designing a large 'hundreds of thousands of
users' GroupWise system -give me a call I would LOVE the opportunity.  :)
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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:30:38 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] MIMO antenna technology - who knew?
Message-ID: <609b18560802281830u479d3d14u9889a8b427c2b414@mail.gmail.com>

Every thing electronic is developing - even antennas

MIMO with single antenna
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/wireless/?p=193&tag=nl.e048

metamaterials
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/wireless/?p=189

negative refraction
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/31803

more on metamaterials
http://www.ee.duke.edu/~drsmith/about_metamaterials.html


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From rmcken at mac.com  Thu Feb 28 19:22:29 2008
From: rmcken at mac.com (Ross McKenzie)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:22:29 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] print management systems
In-Reply-To: <609b18560802281653y7ff459d8oa558b83d1671cf2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <609b18560802281653y7ff459d8oa558b83d1671cf2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <63829FAD-890C-428F-82EB-880C33974D02@mac.com>


We have one heavily used HPLJ5550 and a DesignJet plotter that we'd  
like to control with some sort of pay per print system.  I've been  
looking at paper cut (windows and mac) and print manager plus (windows/ 
AD). Has anyone any  experience with good software that ties into  
Netware printing? I can google but I'm looking for recommendations  
based on use, I get tired of reading marketing prose. Thanks.

ross


From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Wed Mar  5 11:49:38 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:49:38 -0800
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] ODF vs MS OOXML
Message-ID: <609b18560803051149h74154c65oc002a2efd2a9376c@mail.gmail.com>

below is a very quick one page table comparing ODF vs MS ooxml
(slightly dated, from 2006, but still a good quick overview)

http://opendocumentfellowship.com/introduction/odf_vs_oxml


__________________________________________________________
below from:  http://www.grokdoc.net/index.php/EOOXML_objections
Ecma 376 adequately evaluated within the 30-day evaluation period?

At over 6,000 pages, the Ecma 376 specification is 10 times larger than the
ISO/IEC 26300 OpenDocument specification (at least in part because it fails
to reuse many pre-existing standards). It is not possible to review over 200
pages per day with any hope of finding all the major problems in the
specification.

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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 15:59:09 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:59:09 -0500
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] O'Reilly Webinar: Control a World of
	Computers from Your Linux PC
In-Reply-To: <LYRIS-8049251-50260-2008.03.13-14.09.37--brando.fouts#gmail.com@newsletter.oreilly.com>
References: <LYRIS-8049251-50260-2008.03.13-14.09.37--brando.fouts#gmail.com@newsletter.oreilly.com>
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Those not at Brainshare - you might find this useful.

On 3/13/08, O'Reilly Media <ormadmin at oreilly.com> wrote:
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Active Directory...Schroder writes in a very straightforward and clear
manner.
When things get complicated, and they always do in networking, she sticks to
the main thread while pointing you toward other chapters or documents, as
needed, if you find yourself sidetracked by another problem. I appreciate
this. I've read too many technical books where, in trying to give you all
the information you might need, the writer ends up losing me in the
details...If what you want is a clear guide to using Linux open-source
software to create solutions for such common network requirements as
creating a Linux-based Wi-Fi access point or modem server, using SSH
(Secure Shell) for network management or making a firewall, this book is
for you. It is one of the best practical guides I have ever had the pleasure
of reading on making real-world answers to Linux networking requirements. "
-- Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols, Linux-Watch

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From brando.fouts at gmail.com  Mon Mar 24 11:43:39 2008
From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:43:39 -0700
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] [plone_seattle] Next Seattle Plone Mtg
	(April 2): "Plone and Django: Comparing Tools for Python Web
	Developers"
In-Reply-To: <47292DAA-784B-4649-8F47-4FFE3D7A08B7@webcollective.coop>
References: <0DFD9072-305B-4852-AC00-D5CE3B558711@webcollective.coop>
	<47292DAA-784B-4649-8F47-4FFE3D7A08B7@webcollective.coop>
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FYI - For Your Information

On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Brian Gershon <briang at webcollective.coop>
wrote:

> -----------
> Agenda
> -----------
>
> * Justin James and Brian Gershon of Web Collective will be talking
> about their recent experiences with Django, an exciting python-based
> web framework, and will show examples from both Django and Plone to
> give a sense of the strengths of each platform and when one might use
> one or the other.  There are also some shared concepts between these
> two platforms.  The presentation will be a high-level discussion, plus
> will also delve into some code -- so should be good for a technical
> and non-technical audience.
>
> This is also an invitation to those that know Django really well to
> participate in the conversation (since we're new to Django), and also
> Django users that want to learn more about Plone.
>
> * Lightning Talks, open Q&A (as time allows)
>
> ----------------
> Logistics
> ----------------
> Seattle Plone Gathering
> Wednesday, April 2nd, 2008, 6:00 P.M. to 7:45ish P.M.
>
> NPower Seattle
> 403 - 23rd Avenue South
> Seattle WA
>
> Directions at:
>   http://npowerseattle.org/about/contact/directions.htm
>
> We're looking forward to seeing everyone in April,
>
> Brian & Andrew
> ____________________________________________________________
>   view list


> http://lists.onenw.org/lists/
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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:44:42 -0700
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] image processing
Message-ID: <609b18560803241344y3d7668cgffdd1e05455e944f@mail.gmail.com>

FREE of course - below resume page will give you an overview.

http://www.photojockey.com/resume/

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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:26:23 -0700
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] applications that use ODF - Open Document
	Format - OASIS open standard
Message-ID: <609b18560803251126p4c15e13bne6ecc5a91673402e@mail.gmail.com>

http://documentfreedom.org/Applications

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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:03:00 -0700
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] Nokia vs Blackberry
Message-ID: <609b18560803251203g79aa6ed5tca423eb3f88d238b@mail.gmail.com>

You should add to your short list of products to review.

Broad range of groupware and back-end support: Microsoft Exchange, IBM Lotus
Domino, Groupwise, IMAP, or POP3

One advantage seems to be NO phone company server used - which seems to
eliminate the Blackberry black-out problems we have seen from RIM Blackberry
systems.

http://usa.nokia.com/A4179065

*You've got choices -

"The ability of Nokia Intellisync to support devices from many vendors was a
major factor in our decision. Also, Nokia Intellisync Mobile Suite provided
a smart solution for security, plus email and device management capability
from one set of applications." *


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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:40:19 -0700
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] Wed & Thurs
Message-ID: <609b18560803251940x5ce4638egb8177c28604334bc@mail.gmail.com>

FYI- from the Calendar page:

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March 26 and 27, 2008 - PSNUG monthly meeting + Hands-On class

PART 1 - Brian Six from Novell presents
Teaming+Conferencing<http://www.novell.com/products/teaming/>.
Improvement over SharePoint especially after Novell announcing the purchase
of SiteScape<http://www.nytimes.com/idg/IDG_002570DE00740E18002573EF000073A1.html?ref=technology>.
Also see the open source side ICEcore <http://www.icecore.com/open.html>.

PART 2 - Brian Six -Thursday AM March 27- will also do 1/2 day HANDS ON
install and admin class on *Teaming+Conferencing*. Exact details will be
worked out in a week or so but I need to get the word out to everyone ASAP
so we know how many people to plan for.
Put out the word to your customers, associates, management etc. This will be
a great opportunity to get a look at this product and second, see HANDS-ON
installing and administration of Teaming+Conferencing.
*RSVP*   ssinghose at wccg.net   - *ASAP* so Steve Singhose can plan this
event.

A lot going on at Novell - check out the Press
Room<http://www.novell.com/news/press/room>


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From: brando.fouts at gmail.com (Brandon Fouts)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 13:01:52 -0700
Subject: [PSNUG.org Support] recent hacks - who won?
Message-ID: <609b18560803291301r18d58c19sa6790364e7852db3@mail.gmail.com>

http://svextra.com/blogs/gmsv/2008/03/hack_jacks_mac_in_seconds_flat.html

As Randy often reminds us, you really need layers of protection.

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